tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.comments2023-03-28T21:22:34.306-05:00A Curious UUA Curious UUhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-12683989825730504062015-05-05T22:15:22.571-05:002015-05-05T22:15:22.571-05:00Those are some great songs and artists above. Let ...Those are some great songs and artists above. Let me add the duo of F C Barnes and Janice Brown(Rough Side of the Mountain). Yeah, any songs; artists; groups; etc. that anyone knows of that sing Christian music. I'm really not into gospel rap(will tolerate a little as long as the song is meaningful) and not any other gospel derivatives at all. Race and life background is not a factor; white; black; Hispanic; etc. as long as the song is English and there is potential to positively affect a Christian through praise; lifestyle; encouragement; worship; etc.<br /><br />I heard Patsy Cline--while sampling. She sounded great(I think one was "Peace in the Valley" and another one was "Just a Closer Walk with Thee") and the songs sounded very relevant from the samples. A person's race does not matter, but also their lifestyle background does not matter(as I believe the bible says to do as they say and not as they do--when referring to wicked people with good advice; a helpful thing would not be that far of a jump from advice). Yeah, but any Christian/gospel song/artist that doesn't stray strongly into worldly styles of music regardless of race; life background; etc.?bamminerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03778468655882606695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-46632209847409000502015-05-05T15:32:02.306-05:002015-05-05T15:32:02.306-05:00Thanks for all the music recommendations. I know o...Thanks for all the music recommendations. I know of some but certainly not all. Are you looking for religious music recommendations or gospel? A Curious UUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-74794633557712011742015-05-05T11:58:43.078-05:002015-05-05T11:58:43.078-05:00I think that if a Christian song has mostly direct...I think that if a Christian song has mostly direct relation to you, then you should sing it no matter your race. I think that was what David was going for--that your singing be from and of the heart. 1. If it's a song like "Swing Low, Swing Chariot", then all Christians believe in the same God and that Jesus is coming to take you home one day. If you are saved(converted to Christ), then that song relates directly to you. Some songs are talking about what you hope your future to be: ex. YouTube "No Tears in Heaven" by the Jackson Southernaires. And almost anybody can sing those kinds of songs. Most black songs you'll find relate to people of a certain standing(either a negative or positive position they/singer might be in/referring to) or are general and universal. 2. Another thing to note is that singers that sing for audiences may be singing for the audience's edification or that the song is something that the people can relate to.<br /><br />Black singers/groups that I've heard and liked at least some of their work as far as "Christian" singing:<br />Lee Williams and the Spiritual QCs("Personally": general song but almost referring directly to saved people; Some like "Can't Run, Can't Hide" better; "I Find No Fault"; "Be Alright", too)<br />Jackson Southernaires("No Tears in Heaven"; "Power"; "Can't Make It By Myself"; "He Keeps on Blessing Me")<br />Mississippi Mass Choir("Thank You Lord for my Mansion"; "It's Good to Know Jesus"; "Having You There"; "It Wasn't the Nails")<br />Williams Brothers("I'm Just a Nobody"; "Cooling Water" sung with Lee Williams; "Pressing On"; "Mama Prayed for Me")<br />Canton Spirituals("Rise Above It All" sung with Williams Brothers--I believe; "Fix it Jesus"; "I Recommend Jesus"; "He'll Send the Blessings")<br />The Winans(classic group--be careful with some of the lyrics; "A Friend"; "This Time it's Personal"; "Free"; "Tomorrow")<br />There's BeBe and CeCe Winans,<br />Dorothy Norwood, Shirley Caesar, Mahalia Jackson, Mary Mary(very careful with lyrics), Kirk Franklin(again, be very careful), the Caravans, Willie Neal Johnson and the Gospel Keynotes("I'm Going Home with the Lord"), Willie Banks and the Messengers(God is Still in Charge) and there are so many other black artists; choirs; and groups out there to YouTube and check out their work.<br /><br />Anybody with any white, black, or any other English speaking music that they'd recommend?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />bamminerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03778468655882606695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-53521212748701335712014-11-16T17:39:26.236-06:002014-11-16T17:39:26.236-06:00What did you decide to do? It sounds like you have...What did you decide to do? It sounds like you have a bigger problem with being offended by a bad arrangement than a race issue. I keep going back and forth on this. I enjoy singing the Canadian national anthem and I am not Canadian but then there isn't the history of oppression related to that. <br />A Curious UUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-82487697475308262014-10-31T07:04:53.418-05:002014-10-31T07:04:53.418-05:00I am very much in favor of White groups singing Af...I am very much in favor of White groups singing African-American spirituals, or any other group for that matter. The spiritual is the first truly American song form, and is thus a part of all of our history.<br /><br />However, I make the caveat that great care should be taken to perform these pieces with utmost authenticity. I admit, I've heard dozens of White choirs and more than a couple of Black ones butcher spirituals. I think it should be pointed out that many African-Americans don't know the first thing about spirituals either - I was once one of them.<br /><br />I am faced now with a problem: I am working on my second degree (in music) at a predominantly White institution. The choir that I am required to sing with has on its docket a truly horrendous arrangement of a spiritual that I do not think I can sing in good conscience.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-38597776008122907782014-01-12T08:14:06.046-06:002014-01-12T08:14:06.046-06:00Coming from a background similar to Milton's, ...Coming from a background similar to Milton's, I am very much in agreement with his comment. Although we understand fully that although the songs were borne out of oppression, the message/content in the song is what I find to be very important and uplifting.<br /><br />Isn't it wonderful that there are other cultures/colours, who too appreciate and enjoy the beautiful spirituals!!Tanyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06982297457465534923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-7455602760771191112014-01-10T11:38:12.679-06:002014-01-10T11:38:12.679-06:00Thanks for your comments and I'm glad to hear ...Thanks for your comments and I'm glad to hear there is a white choir out there doing a beautiful job, A Curious UUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-18943705493401284662014-01-10T11:26:58.219-06:002014-01-10T11:26:58.219-06:00As a black male there are some white choirs that s...As a black male there are some white choirs that sing Negro Spirituals pretty well.I'm listening to a choir now who is singing"Couldn't Hear Nobody Pray" which is nothing short of beautiful.Now whether Whites singing songs that was born out of oppression is something altogether different,but you can't please everybody and even though in some cases it might open a can of worms it's a free country and some people may actually enjoy hearing other ethnic groups singing our old slave/spiritual songs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03361245943970597897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-16635269176506563832012-06-13T22:36:59.132-05:002012-06-13T22:36:59.132-05:00Do we do the same things that Christians do, presu...Do we do the same things that Christians do, presume our answers are the correct ones?<br /><br />I'm not asking this to suggest that the experience of being told you're going to hell for not theologically agreeing with the person who is telling you your fate is anything short of obnoxious and offensive, because it is both. I have been catching myself in the same arrogance of "I have the answer and it is not yours" in thought if not words. It's hard. <br /><br />I think it would be hard to live that life, if one is a compassionate, purpose driven person. Your perspective is thought provoking.Christine S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06692309060238822834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-28375515873927798872012-06-11T09:31:51.226-05:002012-06-11T09:31:51.226-05:00How sad.How sad.A Curious UUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-55864479693256082782012-06-09T11:51:00.267-05:002012-06-09T11:51:00.267-05:00Sometimes there is great grief at funerals for ind...Sometimes there is great grief at funerals for individuals like this as they have assumed that the departed has gone to hell.Mickbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02219995234630216502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-28352035521568438382012-06-09T11:48:31.355-05:002012-06-09T11:48:31.355-05:00Sometimes for Christian like this there is great g...Sometimes for Christian like this there is great grief at funerals as they asssume the departed has gone to hell.Mickbichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02219995234630216502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-3648806532475633372010-11-22T08:41:11.213-06:002010-11-22T08:41:11.213-06:00That is an important question. It is distinctly p...That is an important question. It is distinctly possible that our framing is perpetuating the very thing we hope to transcend . Paul Rasor referred to the “radical inclusiveness” of the early Universalists, and I have heard numerous times that “we welcome all who come.” To me, these examples indicate an “inward” focus that I summarize as “if we’re welcoming, they will come.” Being welcoming and inclusive are certainly necessary conditions for enabling us to realize the vision expressed in the 1992 GA Resolution, but they are hardly sufficient. When we do have the opportunity to welcome individuals who appear to have the potential for increasing the diversity of our congregations, shall we welcome them for their inherent worth and dignity, or because their presence may help us to feel better about ourselves? <br /><br />I think Victor Frankl provides a very helpful perspective. I have substituted “multiculturalism” where he has written “success”. <br /><br />“Don't aim at [multiculturalism] -- the more you aim at it and make it a target, the more you are going to miss it. For [multiculturalism], like happiness, cannot be pursued; it must ensue, and it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself or as the by-product of one's surrender to a person other than oneself. Happiness must happen, and the same holds for [multiculturalism]: you have to let it happen by not caring about it. I want you to listen to what your conscience commands you to do and go on to carry it out to the best of your knowledge. Then you will live to see that in the long-run -- in the long-run, I say! – [multiculturalism] will follow you precisely because you had forgotten to think about it." (from *Man’s Search for Meaning*)<br /><br />I am drawn again and again to the UUA tag line, “Nurture your spirit. Help heal our world.” The former component speaks from the “inward” focus: “If you are marginalized, oppressed, wounded by a faith tradition, battered by the prevailing political/cultural dynamics, or otherwise in need of sanctuary and support, we welcome you. We will nurture your spirit.” That is truly well and good, but it is not enough.<br /><br />Our capacity for nurturing spirits must also include the "outward" focus - ways for individuals to “help heal our world.” The two components are interdependent, and only seemingly separable. Engagement in community, in providing service to others, is essential to spiritual growth and to realizing our vision of a better world.Walle Wonderinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16203832123622210410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-44787382172776464342010-10-02T16:55:38.607-05:002010-10-02T16:55:38.607-05:00Thank you Walle, for your thoughtful and incisive ...Thank you Walle, for your thoughtful and incisive comment. I regret using "non-white"--it wasn't really what I meant. I agree with what you said but what about hypervigilance to race or gender or sexual orientation? Is it possible in our stiving to be open, welcoming,and "multi-cultural" that we are perpetuating differences instead of moving beyond them to what we have in common, as you said?A Curious UUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-7862272125995450712010-10-02T12:59:17.776-05:002010-10-02T12:59:17.776-05:00For we of the "baby boom" generation, re...For we of the "baby boom" generation, realizing that we're unlikely to reach that place in our lifetimes is a start. We need to get out into our communities and demonstrate our values through sustained action. In course of doing that, we will make person-to-person connections that will provide the opportunity for us to describe the value that we find in belonging to and participating in our UU congregations. Such conversations should, occasionally, generate interest in finding out more about UUs, and if those interested persons discover a sense of belonging based on shared values - rather than shared phenotypic characteristics or childhood enculturation - then we have a chance at moving in the direction that we seek. We need to work to create the conditions in which people - including "African-American" and "non-white" persons - discover what we have in common, so that they can then decide whether or not it feels right for them to move beyond historical categories of identification and join us in co-creating the UU future. Terms like "multi-racial" and "multi-cultural" are conceptual scaffolding that can help us to build that future: when we find that the scaffolding has become extraneous, we may be able to claim that we have moved "beyond racism". The work of rendering that scaffolding extraneous begins with determination to "walk our talk" in the larger community.Walle Wonderinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16203832123622210410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-78514210848947944522010-09-27T10:06:25.049-05:002010-09-27T10:06:25.049-05:00"I have never met a UU that didn't care d..."I have never met a UU that didn't care deeply about issues of discrimination."<br /><br />Either you haven't met the U*Us I have had the misfortune to meet or you don't consider anti-religious bigotry to be discrimination. . . I know far too many U*Us who don't care at all about the anti-religious intolerance and bigotry that is found throughout the U*U religious community. For the record these U*Us who do not care at all about discrimination on religious grounds include UUA Presidents, other top level UUA administrators, UUA Trustees, plenty of U*U clergy and any number of "ordinary" lay U*Us.Robin Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06208142626285495635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-16733139096100120912010-09-03T09:00:18.081-05:002010-09-03T09:00:18.081-05:00Just to set the record straight, I am not slamming...Just to set the record straight, I am not slamming America nor have ever been anything but grateful to the troops (I sent care packages, letters, and cards to troops that didn't get much mail). <br /><br />Quite the opposite: I think our country is way too good to be abusing our freedom by torching religious buildings, slitting throats, and burning religious books. <br /><br />I don't have a problem with America, I have a problem with some Americans who want to deny freedom to other Americans. <br /><br />Can't we agree that the 1st Ammendment is for all?A Curious UUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-27100776602960323752010-09-03T06:18:48.733-05:002010-09-03T06:18:48.733-05:00Not as tragic as Americans slamming their country ...Not as tragic as Americans slamming their country and those Americans sacriface as Islamophobic.Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-84010538273265722922010-09-02T21:25:17.046-05:002010-09-02T21:25:17.046-05:00Wouldn't it be all the more more tragic if it ...Wouldn't it be all the more more tragic if it turned out that all those Americans who lost their lives ended up fighting for an America that is against religious tolerance and freedom? <br /><br /><br /><br />In today's news: <br /><br /><br />The rise in anti-Muslim incidents follows the emotional debate over the proposed Islamic center near ground zero... <br /><br />From the cab driver who had his throat slit in New York after telling a passenger he was Muslim to the mosque set ablaze in Tennessee, Muslim Americans feel they are increasingly under fire, said Irfan Haq, president of the Council of Sacramento Valley Islamic organizations.<br /><br /><br />Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/09/02/2999973/sacramento-area-leaders-gather.html#ixzz0yQe2zI7M<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />A church in Florida is poised to commemorate an act of violence committed in the name of Islam, the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, with... the public burning of the Quran.<br /><br />Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/02/EDGD1F7MR4.DTL#ixzz0yQd71rj4A Curious UUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-82479786600596734022010-07-03T12:33:40.026-05:002010-07-03T12:33:40.026-05:00Thanks for the information. Yes, I voted for the A...Thanks for the information. Yes, I voted for the AIW, too--it's a great thing.A Curious UUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911259437698413394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3300071265137449906.post-89442418074137110502010-07-03T11:53:22.378-05:002010-07-03T11:53:22.378-05:00For history with PUENTE and intentions for July 29...For history with PUENTE and intentions for July 29 please read http://socialjustice.blogs.uua.org/2010/06/16/puente-and-ndlon/<br /><br />Watch Standing on the Side of Love for the next couple of weeks for actions on July 29.<br /><br />Watch UUA website for followup on the Action of Immediate Witness passed almost unanimously at GA that ends with: <br />FINALLY BE IT RESOLVED that the delegates call upon the member congregations of the Unitarian Universalist Association, their individual members and friends, and affiliate organizations, to pledge themselves:<br />• to continue to witness against SB 1070 and its implementation<br />• to support Arizona on a July 29, 2010 Day of Non-Compliance and for events during the Human Rights Summer<br />• to apply such economic pressure to the state as is specifically targeted to achieve repeal <br />• to monitor legislation in other states and witness against any similar anti-immigrant proposals <br />• to participate in voter registration and civic engagement campaigns as a prerequisite to better laws in the future <br />• to call on President Obama to reassert the federal government’s exclusive control over immigration law <br />• to support federal legislative proposals such as the Dream Act, that benefit citizens and immigrants alike, and<br />• to persist until humane federal comprehensive immigration reform is achieved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com